
Dear "AGP" or whatever you are called these days:
This looks like a convo I had with Rez little more than a month back (around mid-March and definitely before you people's Spring Break Montreal spree). A bit outdated already given this apparent new look in matters, but still worthy of contemplation anyway, I suppose. Read when you aren't too drunk or high, guys, and I hope you feel absolutely as indifferent, as apathetic, as purposeless and thoughtless as ever by the time you're done. Or better yet, don't read at all. Such a hassle, no? But worry not, for you certainly won't see another from me. Enjoy all your excess, and here's to many more.
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yuuzora (8:47:01 PM): We hanged A LOT in gym junior year.
yuuzora (8:47:10 PM): Me, Dylan, Vlad, Pragus.
realitystained (8:47:11 PM): I didn't really talk to him much back then though and he didn't really notice me O_o;
realitystained (8:47:20 PM): I got to know him mainly through vlad
realitystained (8:47:22 PM): just during senior year
yuuzora (8:47:25 PM): I see.
yuuzora (8:48:08 PM): Did I tell you how I knew him so well junior year, and then just shut him out since May...until September of senior year, when he somehow magically started hanging out with ALL the whattheboobians.
realitystained (8:48:09 PM): and I didn't even know vlad except that he existed until by some coincidence i decided to IM him some time early in the summer
yuuzora (8:48:22 PM): I see...
realitystained (8:48:32 PM): I've heard that story more or less methinks
yuuzora (8:48:39 PM): Yeah.
yuuzora (8:49:17 PM): And during May and June, Dylan was, by that time, pretty freaked by what I was doing and hanged more and more with Chet and Waymo...and saw a lot of the then-third floor people, I guess.
yuuzora (8:49:43 PM): And at the start of senior year...it all migrated to become the second floor crew, and somehow Wilson, Nelson, etc. also joined in.
realitystained (8:49:55 PM): yeah...
realitystained (8:49:59 PM): it's really interesting how
realitystained (8:50:04 PM): we've known all these people
realitystained (8:50:06 PM): separately
realitystained (8:50:16 PM): but now it's sort of just merged into one rather loose group O_o
yuuzora (8:50:30 PM): Yes...
yuuzora (8:50:40 PM): And whattheboob is almost completely disintegrating.
yuuzora (8:50:59 PM): It's funny how I tend to see Hyo as the center of whattheboob...
yuuzora (8:51:17 PM): Like she is the symbol, the link that connects all its extremely loose and volatile members.
realitystained (8:51:39 PM): she's always been I think
yuuzora (8:51:54 PM): Like, not all whattheboobians would directly go out of their way to hang out with each other, but we all would go out of our way to hang out with Hyo...
realitystained (8:52:08 PM): it is through her that most of us got to know each other after all
realitystained (8:52:13 PM): it kind of grew around her
realitystained (8:52:14 PM): literally
yuuzora (8:52:17 PM): Yes.
yuuzora (8:52:30 PM): And somehow...
yuuzora (8:52:55 PM): If something happens to change Hyo, it would mark the end to the whattheboobism in my head.
realitystained (8:56:09 PM): personally, i've felt very distant to it since mid soph year, i still knew everyone, but whattheboob as I knew it, seemed ended to me some time ago, it's changed dramatically no longer do we sit and wait for each other, no longer do we ponder where one of us has gone off to, no longer do we venture off together. As of said, it is indeed a very loose group now O_o and should Hyo...change it would simply lose the center, she would become one of us and drift out to the edge of the circle or whatnot, but it's already become quite spread out, and not as closely knit, personally, it wouldn't feel altogether too different...
realitystained (8:56:32 PM): *As I've
yuuzora (8:57:40 PM): That, sadly, is actually quite very true.
yuuzora (8:57:54 PM): But I have never acquired that perspective...
yuuzora (8:58:29 PM): And just as I seemed to be on the verge of being kicked out also, somehow that didn't happen.
yuuzora (8:59:01 PM): Hyo just made a sudden transition one day and accepted all of the Ridwan-ness and whatnot, and I was happy for that...but at the same time, the group concept has somehow simultaneously disappeared altogether.
yuuzora (8:59:41 PM): But as to the fact that we are loose and unstable and whatnot...I saw that way back at the beginning of soph year.
yuuzora (9:00:36 PM): I remember saying to myself, this is not a group where people really give a shit about EVERY SINGLE ONE ELSE. Some may be closer to one or two, but the majority just don't give a shit. We have fun while together...while nothing much else holds us together.
realitystained (9:00:38 PM): We used to wait for each other, we used to not wander off without saying bye now we just kind of head home whenever we please, if we were siblings before, we are simply distant cousins now I would think...
yuuzora (9:01:13 PM): Heh, I was a latecomer in that sense.
yuuzora (9:01:19 PM): At the end of freshie year...
yuuzora (9:01:33 PM): Whereas I understand there is a history long before that.
yuuzora (9:01:38 PM): But I wasn't even around to see it.
yuuzora (9:02:05 PM): By the beginning of soph year I sensed the drifty nature in this so-called group...and I sort of gave it up even then.
yuuzora (9:03:02 PM): I expected no more than just hanging out and having fun with the group as a whole unit of EVERYONE. I was close to you/Laura/Hyo at some point or other, but never everyone at once.
realitystained (9:03:28 PM): yeah, I agree with the you/laura/hyo
realitystained (9:03:37 PM): I never was quite as close to anyone else within the group
realitystained (9:03:47 PM): though I was aware it was much larger than just us four...
yuuzora (9:04:22 PM): And then came the point where the only thin thread holding "everyone" together became the whattheboob blog itself...and I really don't understand why I try so much to keep things together, on that site alone, if nothing else in real life...
realitystained (9:06:05 PM): I felt rather distant and ambivalent toward the whattheboob site at it's creation, I don't suppose I ever fully embraced it as a means of holding us together, though I did see the whole "thin thread"ness if anything, it was afterall my only means of at least pretending to be part of whattheboob at that point in time
realitystained (9:06:37 PM): i actually feel a lot more assimilated into it than i did then
yuuzora (9:07:30 PM): The real group spirit that you spoke of...where "I and I" would wait for "I and I", seemed to have died with - a n k i -.
yuuzora (9:07:46 PM): I convinced rora to make whattheboob because I really wanted to recreate anki...
yuuzora (9:08:26 PM): Somehow, I thought if we have something like it again, people will come back to the way things were...but obviously that didn't and couldn't work out, not when I myself was a hypocrite and was still obviously excluding you back then.
realitystained (9:09:13 PM): Indeed...though anki itself was never too strong either
realitystained (9:09:25 PM): you will remember it began only with laura, and ended with only yourself
realitystained (9:09:36 PM): with maybe few and rare interjections of me and hyo
yuuzora (9:10:11 PM): Indeed...
yuuzora (9:10:25 PM): I was happy during whattheboob's initial months.
yuuzora (9:10:34 PM): We kept activity up longer than anki ever did.
yuuzora (9:10:44 PM): However, the same fate would befall again.
realitystained (9:11:06 PM): to be honest, we're simply too lazy
yuuzora (9:11:06 PM): Except now even I am mostly too lazy to give classic rants...
yuuzora (9:11:10 PM): Yeah. Exactly.
yuuzora (9:11:16 PM): But there's also the thing that...
yuuzora (9:11:25 PM): Most of the stuff I want to rant about simply can't be done openly like that.
yuuzora (9:11:33 PM): I have stuff to say about us as a group.
yuuzora (9:11:44 PM): And it's not exactly the best sort of talk to put up...
realitystained (9:13:01 PM): That is something of the sort I noticed during my...let us say exile from whattheboob, of course I had plenty of time to pick out all the flaws of the group, and all the flaws of myself as a member of that group, one of them was the fact that despite however close we may have been there is the undeniable fact that it's always awkward to actually seriously and candidly talk about and discuss things
realitystained (9:13:19 PM): everyone tends to shift away or change the subject or simply not be willing to stomach such things and respond
realitystained (9:13:37 PM): one is never aware of what too many of the others actually feels or thinks on more serious topics
realitystained (9:14:00 PM): but by means of interpretation, guesswork, etc.
yuuzora (9:15:38 PM): Haha...
yuuzora (9:15:46 PM): How true, how true.
yuuzora (9:17:12 PM): During your exile...actually, however determined I was in telling myself that I won't bend my head until the day I reach a "similar situation" as you did, if you put even a flicker of the stuff you wrote on your xanga, it could have been enough to overturn my stomach.
yuuzora (9:17:27 PM): I actually checked your xanga quite often.
yuuzora (9:17:33 PM): And was sick with myself and what I was doing.
yuuzora (9:18:29 PM): By "overturn my stomach", I meant driving me to do things like strangle-hugging you the next time I see you in real life and just cry onto your shoulder or something.
yuuzora (9:19:01 PM): That's how guilty I felt, at times, over the whole ordeal.
yuuzora (9:19:30 PM): But even so, I never communicated much with Hyo and others to sort of check on how they were taking this...
yuuzora (9:19:51 PM): You are totally right in that we don't communicate on deeper levels at all.
yuuzora (9:20:06 PM): And mostly out of simple laziness and unwillingness to be more deeply involved.
yuuzora (9:20:10 PM): We are all lazy to the bone.
realitystained (9:20:17 PM): Indeed...
yuuzora (9:20:21 PM): See nothing...hear nothing...and everything will be simple and good.
yuuzora (9:20:29 PM): That is our weird little defunct policy.
realitystained (9:20:38 PM): someone has on several occasions blatantly stated she'd just rather not think about things that much
yuuzora (9:20:55 PM): That is the general mood with everyone, I can really say.
realitystained (9:21:01 PM): Indeed indeed
realitystained (9:21:06 PM): a little strange though
yuuzora (9:21:17 PM): Which is what I usually mean when I state things like, "we don't give a shit about each other".
yuuzora (9:22:21 PM): You know...I'm having a strange impulse/urge to just post this whole thing onto whattheboob.
yuuzora (9:22:27 PM): But something also holds me back.
yuuzora (9:22:32 PM): I don't dare to do this...
realitystained (9:22:35 PM): Indeed...
realitystained (9:22:51 PM): and I think it's that same thing that always holds us back from ever seriously revealing such things
realitystained (9:23:10 PM): the strange fear of that awkwardness that simply looking over the topic and pretending it didn't happen
realitystained (9:23:16 PM): as tends to be the reaction..
yuuzora (9:23:28 PM): Heh...
yuuzora (9:24:00 PM): People will look, read, look the other way, and a few days later will pretend (and even truly believing) that nothing has ever happened.
yuuzora (9:24:12 PM): Because, deep down, again, we simply don't give a fuck.
yuuzora (9:24:19 PM): We are already second term seniors, a lot of us think.
yuuzora (9:24:23 PM): Soon nothing will matter.
realitystained (9:25:05 PM): Indeed, however much they might feel a tinge of truth in it, they would think "yeah..that's too bad, but what are we to do about it *shrug*" and there it goes...
yuuzora (9:25:27 PM): Of course, of course...
yuuzora (9:26:14 PM): I, myself, was willing to go on this way (as I was "taught" and have gotten used to in the past two or three years), until wifey sent me an email some time ago that sent me thinking...
yuuzora (9:26:23 PM): She asked me about what I thought of an idea she had.
yuuzora (9:26:45 PM): She was seeking my advice because I was uninvolved, thus my opinion would not be biased, etc.
yuuzora (9:27:01 PM): These are her exact words:
yuuzora (9:27:30 PM):
I am in the process of creating memoir of sorts—more as a list of grievances, I suppose, than anything else—about...basically everyone that I've been spending my time with over the last few years (well not everyone, but the most significant figures). And the more I compose, the more I have this undying desire to...LET THEM READ IT. Anonymously of course. This mostly involves the process of slipping the copies into everyone's locker. :DThese papers however, are exceedingly harsh and critical, and I am sure that they would not be accepted with much acclaim. I am dreading the consequences of what would happen if they were to find my identity. X( HOHOHO. And yes, in addition to writing about them, I will write about myself, in order to cover my tracks.realitystained (9:28:07 PM): hehe..
realitystained (9:28:10 PM): that is strange
yuuzora (9:28:10 PM):
Huh. So you're probably confused on why I would ever want to do such a thing. Well, me and this darling girl in my little group had quite the argument during regents week, and we had both decided that the solution was to have a group chat, one in which no feelings are barred, and all that pent up angst is expressed in full emotion. (I suspect that she wanted to have this for another purpose, but its something I don't have to elaborate on) Well, after polling many people that were to participate, I decided against it due to many people believing that..."It's the end of the year. Lets just stay happy for the rest of it, please?"yuuzora (9:28:32 PM): She was basically asking me whether she would really do this, the locker note thing.
yuuzora (9:28:43 PM): I told her to go ahead...there's nothing to lose from such doings.
yuuzora (9:29:00 PM): But at the meantime, of course, I couldn't' help but think about what's going on here, with the whattheboobians.
yuuzora (9:29:11 PM):
How different are they from us...yuuzora (9:29:21 PM):
Or, perhaps, not so different after all?realitystained (9:29:29 PM): strangely enough, I pondered over creating just about the exact same thing during my exile
realitystained (9:29:40 PM): and similarly, slipping a copy to all
yuuzora (9:30:07 PM): Yes, another thing that, if had been done, would have at least sent one teary Jing running after you down the hall.
yuuzora (9:30:15 PM): Don't know how that would have affected others...
yuuzora (9:30:25 PM): But if you had actually done any of these things...
yuuzora (9:30:33 PM): Perhaps we would all be a bit different now.
realitystained (9:30:42 PM): positively? negatively?
realitystained (9:30:50 PM): that's one thing I suppose I could never sort out..
yuuzora (9:31:23 PM): I would imagine that bonding would have at least soared for some amount of time...
yuuzora (9:31:36 PM): It may or may not keep up, but that...
yuuzora (9:32:06 PM): In itself, is that good or bad? Does it say we are, after all, conscientious beings? Or that we just can't change?
yuuzora (9:32:30 PM):
And, of course, there's always the ultimate question of "does any of this even matter"?yuuzora (9:32:52 PM):
Even though I would of course say it does...yuuzora (9:33:06 PM):
It simply doesn't work that way for every person.realitystained (9:33:40 PM): Indeed...
yuuzora (9:33:43 PM): And this type of thinking is the exact sort of thing that hurt people's brains.
yuuzora (9:34:05 PM): So I totally understand people for opting to forget everything altogether.
realitystained (9:34:08 PM): Again, we can't even be sure how much some of the others actually "give a shit" about each other
yuuzora (9:34:12 PM): Maybe, just maybe...we are wrong in complaining.
yuuzora (9:34:26 PM): Maybe it was better to just hang out, have fun, and not questioning things beyond that.
yuuzora (9:34:36 PM): Of course.
yuuzora (9:35:09 PM): And, if so...I suppose it really doesn't matter if I just post this thing, right now, on whattheboob. With typos and whatnot edited, of course.
yuuzora (9:35:33 PM): It certainly seems like things can not change for the worse from this.
realitystained (9:36:01 PM): haha..
yuuzora (9:36:02 PM): Really, the "worst" that can happen in this case is that we pretend nothing has happened...
yuuzora (9:36:23 PM): Which isn't really even that bad a thing.

yuuzora (9:37:27 PM): I've actually talked with Dylan over such topics.
yuuzora (9:38:04 PM): I told him about whattheboob, a brief history of our "traumatic moments" (i.e., your "exile"), how I find it weird to think Hyo would...
yuuzora (9:38:21 PM): It may seem weird to others that I talk to him like that...
yuuzora (9:38:37 PM): But then again, there were times when we talked a lot more, for days on end.
yuuzora (9:39:11 PM): We had a lot to say to each other back then, back in April, except he also pissed the hell out of me a lot more in those days.
yuuzora (9:39:24 PM): After the whole "Jing exiling him" thing, he's actually become a lot tamer.
yuuzora (9:39:31 PM): To be actually bearable in company now.
yuuzora (9:39:53 PM): Either that, or that we have simply gotten extremely used to his..."ways"...due to overexposure.
yuuzora (9:39:54 PM): -_-
yuuzora (9:40:06 PM): But he's definitely become a lot less annoying, a lot less of a dick.
realitystained (9:40:19 PM): and don't forget /b/ we have undoubtedly become a bit corrupted ourselves
yuuzora (9:40:27 PM): ...Heh.
yuuzora (9:40:34 PM): Of course.
yuuzora (9:40:44 PM): The Anonymous connection.
realitystained (9:40:55 PM): but on the other hand I also recall Dylan of junior year to be a more unapproachable figure
yuuzora (9:41:30 PM): Indeed.
yuuzora (9:45:32 PM): But anyway...
yuuzora (9:46:04 PM): After I suddenly re-accepted Dylan and started talking to him again, I was pleasantly surprised (or not too surprised?) that he had since refined himself quite a bit.
yuuzora (9:46:33 PM): But what followed was rather shocking to me...
yuuzora (9:46:45 PM): Somehow he grew close to Hyo and group, by a lot.
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And we may all know the rest of the story. Spring Break comes, and when Jing comes back from Ohio, she finds that everyone has suddenly turned into drunkards slash potheads in making. Perhaps I'm overreacting and have expected too much from people in the first place, but that, as we all know already, can only be my fault.
Anonymous instincts tell me this is actually a great story full of lulz. I'll definitely try laughing this one off sometime.